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irek
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| Posted: Jun 11 2007, 07:32 PM |
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Hello
I am a rhino keeper from Dvur Kralove Zoo in Czech Republic. I take care for herd of northern white rhinos. I would like to know what is a situation of that subspecies in the wild. Maybe anybody know if there are still rhinos in Garamba NP?
Irek
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| Posted: Jun 13 2007, 08:41 PM |
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Irek,
There are only 2 remaining Northern Whites in captivity in the US (a male and female) at San Diego's Wild Animal Park, and less 6 (probably only 2-3) left in Garamba.
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| Posted: Jun 15 2007, 06:42 PM |
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Hi,
Thanks for reply. Where did You find info about Garamba? Are You keeper from San Diego WAP?
Irek
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Feddi
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| Posted: Jun 16 2007, 01:54 PM |
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Very nice to have these forums.
Keen to know if there is any progress in breeding the two northern white rhino cows in Dvur Karlove in Czech Republic? Would be nice to know how the herd is doing?
It seems to be very late in the day for this species.
Thanks allot
Best Wishes
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| Posted: Jun 16 2007, 05:11 PM |
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Hello
On Tuesday Fatu and her mother Najin will be inseminated again. Maybe this time it will be OK. For me saveing northern white is now impossible. Unfortunately:( it is too late. I hope I am wrong.
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| Posted: Jun 16 2007, 05:41 PM |
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Thanks for your prompt replie!
You are probably right, but there is always some hope while some of them are still around!
But great news that the Berlin team are working hard to help these rhinos.
I am sure they will not give up with out a good fight!
How many white rhinos are there at the zoo?
Do you know from wich males they get the semen?
I thought all of the northern white rhinos in captivity where related?
Fingers crossed for Tuesday...
Best wishes and Best of luck
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| Posted: Jun 16 2007, 06:57 PM |
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OK. We have 2 males Suni (Saut's son) and Sudan (from the wild). Najin is Sudan's dother, Fatu is Saut's dother. Saut is dead but Berliners have his semen. Suni and Najin have one mother Nasima (also dead). So problem is with gene diversity and inbred in further group (if we will save them from extinction). There is also unrelated mail in San Diego WAP- his semen would be the best (he has no descendant).
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| Posted: Jun 16 2007, 07:24 PM |
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Thanks allot for this.
Well-sounds very difficult indead.
Hope they are storing semen from all of them including the one from San Diego WAP.
Such a shame the change to remove some of them from Garamba NP was lost.
A really depressing story.
But one has to try to be optimistic. The Berlin team have done great things so far and I am in no doupt they will give this project their very best shot...
Keeping my fingers crossed for Tuesday...
With My Very Best Wishes and Masses of Good Luck!
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| Posted: Jun 17 2007, 12:33 PM |
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Sorry one more question?
How come they are trying to inseminate both cows at the same time?
Are their cycles synchronised?
Thanks allot
Best Wishes
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| Posted: Jun 17 2007, 07:15 PM |
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Irek,
The Garamba number was based on a talk given by Dr. Tom Foose at the rhinoworkshop in 2005. He stated that 75%-100% have been killed over an 18 month time period just before the workshop. I do remember hearing that 4 were spotted in August of 2005, but I can not find the article.
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| Posted: Jun 17 2007, 07:39 PM |
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Adam, Feddi,
I believe this is the most recent article about the situation in Garamba:
Hillman Smith, K.
The graph in the PDF indeed suggests 4 (or 5) remaining Northern Whites.
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Willem van Strien - Rhino Resource Center Admin
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| Posted: Jun 19 2007, 12:14 PM |
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Thank you for the article, Willem. As an ardent lover of all the Rhino species, the situation for the Northern White is very upsetting. I just wanted to say what a valuable work you are all doing in the Czech Republic, Berlin and San Diego to keep this sub-species going.
I wish you all the best of luck in successful births and locating, perhaps, an extended gene pool,
Andrew
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Andrew Attias
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| Posted: Jun 30 2007, 09:36 AM |
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Hello
I've read article from link and there was information about samples of tissues and DNA analises. My question is: does anybody preserve those samples for cloning purpose?
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| Posted: Jul 5 2007, 03:10 PM |
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| QUOTE (Feddi @ Jun 17 2007, 12:33 PM) | Sorry one more question?
How come they are trying to inseminate both cows at the same time?
Are their cycles synchronised?
Thanks allot
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Hi, I am a french keeper and i worked for 3 months in Dvur Kralove as a rhino keeper with Irek.
Actually, the berliners had done Fatu on the tuesday and came back on the friday for Najin 'cause their cycles are few days differents.
I am now back in France crossing fingers for the girls and for me too, to find promptly a job as a rhino keeper somewhere in France or UK.
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| Posted: Jul 5 2007, 06:11 PM |
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Thanks allot for your replie!
Yes fingers crossed, would be brilliant to get an update from the Zoo.
Takes a month or two know if they got it right?
Good luck finding an interesting job.
Best Wishes
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